The Thistle and the Rose (Tudor Saga, #8) by Jean Plaidy

The Thistle and the Rose (Tudor Saga, #8)

From the pen of the legendary historical novelist Jean Plaidy comes the story of Princess Margaret Tudor, whose life of tragedy, bloodshed, and scandal would rival even that of her younger brother, Henry VIII.Princess Margaret Tudor is the greatest prize when her father, Henry VII, negotiates the Treaty of Perpetual Peace with neighboring Scotland. The betrothal is meant to end decades of bloody border wars, but it becomes a love match: To Margar...

Details The Thistle and the Rose (Tudor Saga, #8)

TitleThe Thistle and the Rose (Tudor Saga, #8)
Release DateFeb 4th, 2009
PublisherBroadway Books
GenreHistorical, Historical Fiction, Fiction, English History, Tudor Period, European Literature, British Literature

Reviews The Thistle and the Rose (Tudor Saga, #8)

  • Lisa James
    For a book that was number 8 in a series I'd never heard of before, this actually worked very well as a stand alone book. This is the story of Margaret of Scotland, older sister of King Henry VIII of England. You generally don't see too many books about her, so this one was rather refreshing. She'd be considered a fairly modern woman by our standards, 3 marriages, 2 in defiance of her much married brother, & of the Crown of Scotland to boot. Howe...
  • Tiffany
    *sigh* Margaret Tudor is a horny, horny woman. And kind of dumb, too, when she's being guided by her horniness. "Ooh, this guy's hot. He'll be perfect for me. ... What? He cheated on me? How dare he?! Ooh, this guy's hot. He'll be perfect for me. He'll love me and be faithful to me, unlike the last guy. ... What? He cheated on me?? How dare he?!?! Ooh, this guy's hot. He'll be perfect for me. He'll love me and be faithful to me, unlike the last t...
  • LibraryCin
    Margaret Tudor (Henry VIII’s older sister) was sent to Scotland when she was 12 or 13 to marry King James IV. She fell immediately in love when she met him, but he died young, in battle. In the years to come, she would fall easily in love and eventually be disappointed. But, she always had her and James’ son, James V, to fight for the crown for. I don’t remember reading anything about Margaret before (though it appears that I have, but it w...
  • Ashley W
    Margaret Tudor, older sister of King Henry VIII, leaves her home at the age of thirteen to become the wife of King James IV of Scotland. Margaret, her brother, Henry, and her younger sister, Mary are definitely "three of a kind". All three let their passions lead them, and not their heads. When Margaret marries the King of Scotland, she believes he'd be as faithful to her as her miserly father was to her own mother, but when she finds he has seve...
  • Sherry Cogburn
    Not in the same league as Gregory or Weir but I like learning about the loves and losses of Margaret Tudor, Henry's sister. Those Tudors!!!!! They must have been sooooo indulged as children. She married 3 times divorced once. Can't really think of anything wrong about the writing. Would read her again.
  • English
    Decent story, covering events and a period I am not really familiar with, namely the life of Margaret Tudor in Scotland. However, far too much emphasis on sex and Margaret's love life for my liking. Not that there was anything graphic, it was just tiresome for her falling for one handsome man after another, and incessantly being reminded of how 'passionate' she was.As such, it was hard to sympathize or relate to her as a whiny, sex-mad overgrown ...
  • Merredith
    This is a historical novel about King Henry VIII's older sister Margaret who is married off to Scotland. I'd read about Mary, the younger one, before, so i was interested to read more about this sister. This they were just so messed up! There's so many books, movies and shows about them just because if they existed now, they'd be the hit reality show. The spoiled, self-indulgent rich kids living off their daddy's money, who think tha...
  • Nicole
    The POV in this story is weird and off-putting. It felt disjointed and skippy feeling. It felt like it was a checklist of scenes that needed to put in, not a real narrative. It was an example of telling, not showing. I also found the characters really annoying. They didn't feel like people, but tropes that were repeated over and over (all of the husbands seemed to have the exact same childish personality). There was no difference between them.
  • Bettie☯
    Looking back through teenage reading journals - my auntie had given this for christmas and I seem to have liked it.
  • Sarah Coller
    I've definitely got mixed feelings about this one. This author churned out over 200 works in her lifetime (under pseudonyms like Victoria Holt and Philippa Carr) so one assumes that some, like this one, can't be super deep. On the one hand, the fact that it was very juvenilely written makes it a great way to quickly and easily learn some basics of Tudor history. On the other hand, the story reads more like a transcription of ordered events than a...
  • Debra Petersen
    3.5/5While I can't fault Plaidy's writing style, this book was a bit repetitive. It was oh this handsome guy likes me, I am in love, wait he's cheated on me, I hate him. The main problem I had with this book was that there felt like there wasn't any real depth to the characters, they were all archetypical. The men were pretty much all the same and in the end and I felt a bit like Albani. I wondered, what was the point of chasing after Margaret wh...
  • Linda
    That 'Jean Plaidy' was a pen mane for Victoria Holt explains a lot about this book. It was a well written historical, romantic, tragedy . I gave the book four stars because the author's writing mechanics were very good. It was a soft read never delving too deeply into the lives of the kings and queens and other nobles who made the world go 'round. Was a queen ever more scorned more by her mates than Queen Margaret? Did any queen ever walk off the...
  • Christine Cazeneuve
    Thoroughly enjoyed this book. Told a deep dive story into the life of Princess Margaret (Henry VIII's eldest sister) and her life. It reflects her struggles, hopes and many disappointments along the way. The book portrays her as desperately wanting love in her life and never achieving it. It shows her difficult struggles in trying to obtain divorces, claim regency of her son and what an exhausting life she had (although much of it was caused by h...
  • Rita
    Being a woman in the 16th century guaranteed a hard life; your job was to marry and have children, hopefully many boys. Margaret, a princess of England, grew up to become the wife of the king of Scotland, who wanted sons and heirs to his throne. Being a woman was tough, as Margaret found out.
  • Heather
    Enjoyable I enjoyed reading this. To me, it was a quick read. I always wanted to know more or what next. I did feel like it was hard to know how much time elapsed between things. I felt bad for her. All she wanted was to be loved and cherished.
  • Amy Clayton
    I've only read one other book based around Margaret Tudor (Philippa Gregory) and this was better overall. It was a quick read and Plaidy does a really good job with the third person perspective in her novels. There were some issues with grammar but otherwise a decent read.
  • Julie Urich
    Wonderful Loved this tale of Margaret! Learned some interesting things about her that I did not know, and some things about Henry the VIII...not surprised he was a control freak with her too.
  • Lynette Lark
    I really enjoy reading this author and this book did not disappoint.
  • Janeva Bledsoe
    Te creative writing for the brother and sister (King Henry & Queen Mary of Scotts) was a little over the top. I believe there was a similar situation but the explanation of why was not to my liking.
  • Ellen Frizell
    I love her booksWell developed characters taking you back to the Tudor reign. This is Margaret's story and like her brother king Henry VIII she is strong willed.
  • Katherine E Stewart
    Always a good read!I have always enjoyed reading Jean Plaidy; she never misses! I am considering which one to read next! Thank you!
  • Irene Madrigal
    good bookenjoyed the book more than I thought I would. interestingly written and imaginative. Will look forward to more written by this author.
  • Judy Benvin
    Very interesting. Now I need to find the other books by Jean Plaidy.
  • Arianna
    As much as i didn't want to write a review, i had to.Despite the fact i have NEVER read from this author, i really enjoy Tudor History. I have read a lot of history but never got around to Margret. I found myself looking through my book shelf and found this book and decided to give it a try. I was expecting to find this book VERY dry and i was surprised that i didn't. I did have a few problems with the writing style. Jean seems to repeat way to m...
  • Rosemarie Short
    It is worth starting this by saying I am a huge fan of Jean Plaidy. For her time she was a fabulous figure, writing despite not obtaining a full education, dedicating her life to transforming solid books of heavily compacted history into novels with enough breathing room to garner interest; without being fluffy, as historical fiction these days has a tendency of being. However despite this I found The Thistle and the Rose to be much lighter, more...
  • Julie
    Having recently read Mary, Queen of France, I thought I’d read about Henry VIII’s other overshadowed, sister, Margaret. The Thistle and the Rose was not nearly as enjoyable. Margaret was a completely unsympathetic character. She so easily falls in love, but then becomes enraged with her spouses’ infidelity, then forgives, then sulks in a tedious cycle that grows stale by husband number three. She is constantly scheming to gain control of he...
  • Annette
    Princess Margaret, sister of Henry VIII, marries King James IV of Scotland at the age of 13. She becomes Queen of Scots and seals a peace agreement between England and Scotland.The story goes: he is so handsome, she is so beautiful, and everything is so peachy until she finds out about his mistresses and illegitimate children. At the age of 17, she gives birth to her first child, a son, and hopes that this will change everything and everything wi...
  • Louise
    Erasmus warned the royals about trying to create peace or empires through marriage. Certainly marrying the English princess to the Scottish king did not work that way in young Margaret's lifetime. Perhaps, as tutor to one of the illegitimate sons of James IV, it was Margaret whom Erasmus had in mind.This novel humanizes history as we see the events through the eyes of the 12 year old princess. She is clearly a pawn of her father and then of her b...
  • Mirah W
    An interesting read. I really didn't know a lot about Margaret's life. According to Plaidy's interpretation, Margaret was a pawn in the royal court, constantly searching for true love and never really succeeding. It seemed she was constantly in and out of love which got a little frustrating. The men in her life did little to redeem themselves...James IV seemed to have promise in the beginning but I think he started her on this path of personal di...
  • Emma
    My favourite of Jean Plaidy's Tudor series so far! This is perhaps because the focus shifts entirely from Henry VIII and the English Court (although there are obviously still references to this) to the exciting, rough-and-ready ways of the Scots. Whilst the English courtiers are all flattery and pomp, the Scots are not afraid to rebel and argue amongst themselves which, after so much pussyfooting in the series up until now, is very refreshing and...